Comments on: Gmail Woes Come to Light http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:13:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: How to Backup your Gmail or Google Apps Account Daily | George Donnelly http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-439 How to Backup your Gmail or Google Apps Account Daily | George Donnelly Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:27:27 +0000 http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-439 [...] Gmail Woes Come to Light [...] [...] Gmail Woes Come to Light [...]

]]> By: arghyle » Blog Archive » Gmail Is Freaking Me Out http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-130 arghyle » Blog Archive » Gmail Is Freaking Me Out Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:37:52 +0000 http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-130 [...] Well, there have been a few incidents lately. And some accounts were, uh, deleted. But everything is better, right? Well, most of the issues have been addressed very quickly, but it seems like everything is not perfect. Today Gmail was down for some time, according to a few different sources. Personally I did not experience any outage, but this is not confidence inspiring. I did notice that Google Calendar was loading extremely slowly all evening, something else which is problematic. I can’t really say whether Gmail went down for me or not because I have been keeping myself logged out whenever I am not using it. Normally Gmail is always open in a browser window so I can check it frequently, but after reading about more security problems, including another XSS issue, I have put Gmail on lockdown. I won’t lie, this is a major hassle, because it also keeps me logged out of Calendar and Reader, so I have to log in an out of all three all day long. [...] [...] Well, there have been a few incidents lately. And some accounts were, uh, deleted. But everything is better, right? Well, most of the issues have been addressed very quickly, but it seems like everything is not perfect. Today Gmail was down for some time, according to a few different sources. Personally I did not experience any outage, but this is not confidence inspiring. I did notice that Google Calendar was loading extremely slowly all evening, something else which is problematic. I can’t really say whether Gmail went down for me or not because I have been keeping myself logged out whenever I am not using it. Normally Gmail is always open in a browser window so I can check it frequently, but after reading about more security problems, including another XSS issue, I have put Gmail on lockdown. I won’t lie, this is a major hassle, because it also keeps me logged out of Calendar and Reader, so I have to log in an out of all three all day long. [...]

]]> By: Island in the Net http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-97 Island in the Net Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:46:43 +0000 http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-97 I can see why people would be upset at losing there email accounts and email but....no one is immune from this. I work at a very large pharmaceutical company and even they will sometimes lose email. That's what backups are for. Systems fail and one should always plan for them. I can see why people would be upset at losing there email accounts and email but….no one is immune from this. I work at a very large pharmaceutical company and even they will sometimes lose email. That’s what backups are for. Systems fail and one should always plan for them.

]]> By: christian http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-90 christian Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:03:05 +0000 http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-90 I personally use Gmail because I like the search function meaning I don't have to go through and sort the mail into different folders (I am not very organised). The interesting thing here though is that I backup my email using Opera browser's integral email system; this is also great because Opera's browser comes with an excellent email system focussing on it's very fast search engine and labelling system similar to Google's. This means I get Gmail backed up locally to Opera's mail system which still uses the same concept of not having to file things away religiously in an orderly manner - yet using both of their very powerful search and labelling functionality. Opera's not too bad a browser either. I personally use Gmail because I like the search function meaning I don’t have to go through and sort the mail into different folders (I am not very organised). The interesting thing here though is that I backup my email using Opera browser’s integral email system; this is also great because Opera’s browser comes with an excellent email system focussing on it’s very fast search engine and labelling system similar to Google’s. This means I get Gmail backed up locally to Opera’s mail system which still uses the same concept of not having to file things away religiously in an orderly manner - yet using both of their very powerful search and labelling functionality.

Opera’s not too bad a browser either.

]]> By: What is Google? http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-85 What is Google? Mon, 01 Jan 2007 00:29:17 +0000 http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-85 Like said, it's beta. And in any case, even with released software/products, you should always back up. Those who don't- will (as soon as they lose data). I don't see why you complain that POP3 is a pain. It's one of the simplest protocols to set up. You need, what a username, password, AND server name?!? Oh no! Like said, it’s beta. And in any case, even with released software/products, you should always back up. Those who don’t- will (as soon as they lose data). I don’t see why you complain that POP3 is a pain. It’s one of the simplest protocols to set up. You need, what a username, password, AND server name?!? Oh no!

]]> By: Fast Turtle http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-84 Fast Turtle Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:40:05 +0000 http://www.arghyle.com/2006/12/28/gmail-woes-come-to-light/#comment-84 One thing I'll note is that this is one of the reasons gmail is still in beta instead of being released as finished. Another is that all of the new feature requests. Finally the last element is which countries laws will be followed in regards to email retention, privacy and so on should the offer gmail domains as a commercial product. Furthermore, they loose all of the advertising revenue they get along with the data that's being collected that helps them tune the search/advert algorythims because once it becomes a commercial product, they then have to support it and people are not going to be willing to accept adverts (even googles plain text links)in THEIR email. The other issue is by remaining as beta, Google doesn't have to provide any guaranty that you're email will be available tomorow and that they can discontinue the service at any time w/o notice. So my recomendation is to use the Pop3 access that's been available for some time and perform a local backup to your preferred email client as I've been doing since the pop3 access became available. One thing I’ll note is that this is one of the reasons gmail is still in beta instead of being released as finished. Another is that all of the new feature requests.

Finally the last element is which countries laws will be followed in regards to email retention, privacy and so on should the offer gmail domains as a commercial product. Furthermore, they loose all of the advertising revenue they get along with the data that’s being collected that helps them tune the search/advert algorythims because once it becomes a commercial product, they then have to support it and people are not going to be willing to accept adverts (even googles plain text links)in THEIR email.

The other issue is by remaining as beta, Google doesn’t have to provide any guaranty that you’re email will be available tomorow and that they can discontinue the service at any time w/o notice. So my recomendation is to use the Pop3 access that’s been available for some time and perform a local backup to your preferred email client as I’ve been doing since the pop3 access became available.

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